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Dan Oblinger's avatar

Trevor,

I feel that you are correct there are few "bullshit jobs" in the sense that if you just stopped doing the job, then the system would break down in some bad way.

If the lobbyist stopped lobbying, then needed funds would not come and the company would fail. If middle management did not advocate for a groups resources then it would loose them and the group would fail, etc.

The free market is pretty relentless from top to bottom. Sure for periods of time, bullshit jobs exist, but eventually a exec VP realizes she can save money w/o hurting the org, and then cuts some function.

I see two cases where this does not happen and bullshit jobs live on:

(1) The bullshit of zero sum games. But these are also cases of the system kind of working against itself. Presently our capital system is recursively structured in a very antagonistic way all the way down. The result is some amount of resiliency against stupidity. e.g. if part of the system is less functional, it looses and is removed. Still it is also quite inefficient. Many jobs really push against zero sum games in a way that **IS** bullshit when viewed from at a more macro level.

(2) The bullshit of posture. The incentive of the org is to produce as many widgets per day as possible, and the incentive of the individual is to have an interesting/easy/affluent life. And the individual has MUCH more time to scheme about how they are viewed by the org, and then org has time to view an individual. Thus the optimal strategy in nearly all orgs is to spend a notable amount of ones time in ways that maximize your individual incentive with little or no consideration of the incentive of the org as a whole. thus spending time LOOKING good vs. BEING good. All savvy employees to this do some degree, and of course the extra effort is to not get caught doing it! And doing this feels like (and is) inherently bullshit.

Thus while most big-corp jobs are not bullshit, most jobs do contain a notable amount of bullshit work. Indeed so much so, that like a fish in water, we often are not even fully cognizant of the fraction of our time spent doing this.

(p. s. working in early-stage startups is a great anecdote to this. There is little room for such bullshit, and there is little room to hide if you are engaging in it. of course most all early startups fail... so there is that :-).

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JustAnOgre's avatar

That books was really incredible, in a bad way. The entire political spectrums agrees that capitalism is about profits. No, capitalism is about rich people bragging with how many dependents they have and never mind the costs or lower profit margins. WHAT.

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